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When Authoritarianism Looms, Old Friends Reunite

September 11, 2025
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The Opinion columnist David Brooks, the contributing Opinion writer E.J. Dionne Jr. and the former host of NPR’s “All Things Considered” Robert Siegel convened on Tuesday to discuss the week’s news for The Conversation. They debate President Trump’s shows of strength and how voters and politicians — including members of Trump’s own party — are responding.

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Robert Siegel: I’m Robert Siegel. I used to host “All Things Considered” on NPR, which included one of my favorite weekly features, a Friday talk about politics with two sharp columnists — David Brooks of The New York Times and E.J. Dionne, then of The Washington Post now an Opinion writer at The New York Times.

Well, seven and a half years after our last political chat, we are reunited again for a New York Times conversation about what’s happening in America today and what’s changed since we last spoke back in 2018. E.J., David, it’s great to see you both together.

David Brooks: Great to see you.

E.J. Dionne Jr.: It’s a joy to be with you.

Siegel: Let’s start with the big question about Donald Trump’s second administration, which is, are we or have we slipped into a state of authoritarianism in America? David, what’s your answer?


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