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3 Key Takeaways From the Bondi Hearing

October 7, 2025
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Attorney General Pam Bondi spent more than four contentious hours on Tuesday testifying to the Senate Judiciary Committee, where she sparred repeatedly with Democrats over her handling of the Justice Department as President Trump erodes its independence and seeks prosecutions of his enemies.

Here are three key takeaways from the hearing.

Bondi put on a combative, cagey performance.

Ms. Bondi spent much of the hearing counterpunching against Democrats, who demanded answers about how she was overseeing a raft of politically sensitive cases, and the firings and resignations of prosecutors and F.B.I. agents who handled such cases. The hearing was far more confrontational than the last time she appeared before the committee in January.

Back then, Ms. Bondi pledged to run an independent Justice Department, but Democrats said her tenure in just nine months had shown that to be a hollow promise. Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois accused her of leaving “an enormous stain in American history.”

When Mr. Durbin challenged the president’s decision to send National Guard troops to Chicago, Ms. Bondi replied, “I wish you loved Chicago as much as you hate President Trump.”

Democrats also repeatedly asked about the decision by Mr. Trump’s Justice Department to drop an investigation of the White House border czar, Tom Homan, who has denied committing any crimes.

In September 2024, Mr. Homan accepted a Cava bag with $50,000 cash in it, as part of an undercover F.B.I. investigation in which agents posed as businessmen seeking federal contracts, according to people familiar with the matter, who said there was an audio recording of the interaction.

Ms. Bondi refused to say at the hearing whether Mr. Homan kept the $50,000.

“Clearly, you’re a failed lawyer,” she told Senator Adam B. Schiff of California, himself a target of an investigation Mr. Trump has pushed for, when he pressed her on the Homan inquiry.

Mr. Schiff pressed further: Would she support the release of the recording?

“Will you apologize to Donald Trump?” she shot back.

The Epstein case still haunts the Trump administration.

One of the most difficult moments for Ms. Bondi came at the hands of a Republican, Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana, who gently asked about the case of the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, who died in jail awaiting trial on charges of sex trafficking.

Ms. Bondi has faced blowback from the right for first promising to deliver scandalous details from the F.B.I. files about Mr. Epstein before reversing herself and insisting that there was nothing else to investigate and no more documents would be released. The department also said it did not have evidence he blackmailed anyone.

The administration’s tortured position on the Epstein case got more complicated recently when Howard Lutnick, Mr. Trump’s commerce secretary and a former neighbor of Mr. Epstein, declared in an interview with The New York Post that Mr. Epstein was “the greatest blackmailer ever.”

Mr. Kennedy asked Ms. Bondi about those claims, and whether anyone at the F.B.I. or the Justice Department had interviewed Mr. Lutnick.

No one had, she said. Pressed further by Mr. Kennedy, Ms. Bondi said that if Mr. Lutnick “wants to speak to the F.B.I.,” and if Kash Patel, the bureau’s director, wants him interviewed, that would “absolutely” happen.

Republicans accused Jack Smith of spying on their phones.

As Democrats focused on how Ms. Bondi has handled a host of cases, Republicans sought to stoke outrage over an investigative step taken two years ago by Jack Smith, the former special counsel, to review the phone records of nine G.O.P. lawmakers from around the time of the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol.

A day before the hearing, the committee’s Republican chairman, Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, released a page of an F.B.I. document showing that agents had analyzed the toll records of the lawmakers, meaning a list of who they called, how long the calls lasted, and when and roughly where the calls were made. The phone records were analyzed in September 2023, examining a four-day time period around Jan. 6.

Republicans denounced the investigative activity as “spying,” and Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri, one of those whose records were taken, declared that the F.B.I. had tapped his phone. Mr. Grassley’s public announcement of the issue, however, makes clear that the toll records involved do not include the content of phone calls that result from a wiretap.

The records were sought in 2023 as prosecutors were trying to identify relevant communications between the president and his inner circle with members of Congress on the key days surrounding the violence, according to a person familiar with the investigation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the decision-making process.

Several Republicans on the committee said they wanted to see a new special counsel appointed to investigate the former special counsel. Mr. Patel suggested on Tuesday that more agents could be punished over the issue. Nevertheless, the G.O.P. lawmakers showed little interest in calling Mr. Smith to testify before the committee.

Devlin Barrett covers the Justice Department and the F.B.I. for The Times.

The post 3 Key Takeaways From the Bondi Hearing appeared first on New York Times.

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