As the leaders of China and Russia walked to the viewing platform at a military parade in Beijing on Wednesday, they made small talk about living forever.
Xi Jinping, China’s leader, mused that people might soon live to 150. President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, speaking through a translator, said that organ transplants could allow humans to achieve “immortality.”
The fragments of banter were captured by a microphone and broadcast live by Chinese state news media from the parade celebrating the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II. It was a hot mic moment that shed light on how medical advances are intersecting with geopolitics, given that both Mr. Putin and Mr. Xi, who are both 72, have suggested they may want to stay in power for years to come.
Asked about the comments in a news conference later on Wednesday, Mr. Putin confirmed that the conversation had taken place.
“Modern health methods,” Mr. Putin told a reporter, “allow humanity to hope” that “life expectancy will grow significantly.” Among those advances, he said, were “medical means, even surgical ones, related to organ transplants.”
Mr. Putin has long been reported to take a personal interest in longevity, and he has tasked his health ministry with increasing life expectancy as a “key priority.” The nuclear energy conglomerate Rosatom, one of Russia’s most important state companies, said last year that it was developing technology to “print” human organs.
There is no evidence that replacing people’s organs one by one can extend their life, nor is there any substitute for the human brain, which also undergoes the changes of aging. But Mr. Putin apparently referred to organ transplants as a key to longevity as he chatted with Mr. Xi ahead of Wednesday’s parade.
The live footage picked up the voices of a translator and of Mr. Xi as the world leaders walked to the viewing platform on Tiananmen, or the Gate of Heavenly Peace, which marks the entrance to the former palace of China’s emperors.
Kim Jong-un, the North Korean ruler, accompanied the pair and appeared to be listening in through another translator.
“People rarely lived to be over 70, but these days, at 70, you are still a child,” a man apparently translating Mr. Xi’s comments for Mr. Putin could be heard saying in Russian.
“Biotechnology is making advances,” Mr. Putin responded, according to the translator, now speaking in Mandarin for Mr. Xi. “There’ll be constant transplants of human organs, and maybe even people will grow younger as they age — even achieving immortality.”
“It could be that in this century humans might be able to live to 150 years old,” Mr. Xi can then be heard saying.
While Mr. Xi has until now shown none of Mr. Putin’s enthusiasm for publicly discussing any hopes for longevity, he has suggested that he wants to stay in power, and therefore alive, for some time yet, avoiding any hint that he has chosen a successor.
“It’s our shared hope that the elderly can be well cared for, happy, and live to a ripe age in good health,” he has said.
But during Wednesday’s military parade, Mr. Xi did not entirely hide his age. There was gray visible in his hair — not always the case for Chinese leaders, who sometimes dye their hair luxuriantly black, even in advanced age.
With round-the-clock medical care, Chinese leaders can live for a long time. Deng Xiaoping died at 92, and his successor, Jiang Zemin, died at 96.
Mr. Putin, for his part, engineered a change of Russia’s Constitution in 2020 that would allow him to rule until 2036, when he would be 83. He is fixated on his health, people who know him say, and required those he met face to face during the Covid-19 pandemic to quarantine for as long as two weeks to see him.
Roni Caryn Rabin contributed reporting from New York, and Oleg Matsnev from Berlin.
Anton Troianovski is the Moscow bureau chief for The Times. He writes about Russia, Eastern Europe, the Caucasus and Central Asia.
Chris Buckley, the chief China correspondent for The Times, reports on China and Taiwan from Taipei, focused on politics, social change and security and military issues.
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