CNN’s Audie Cornish seemingly set a trap for a conservative panelist defending the legality of President Donald Trump’s harsh immigration crackdown.
The panelists were debating the legality of an Immigration and Customs Enforcement directive authorizing officers to enter homes without judicial warrants, and The Daily Signal’s Rob Bluey justified the government’s actions.
“Well, I would say, number one, it is a crime to enter the country illegally,” Bluey began, “so that is the basis for which the administration is –”
“ICE officers say that,” Cornish interrupted, “like that’s the crime.”
“Sure,” Bluey agreed, “and I would say ultimately it’s going to be a tough situation. We know that Stephen Miller at the White House is focused on a daily basis on the number of people who are being detained and deported, right? I mean, so this is, I think, going to continue to be an issue for maybe up until the midterm elections.”
That’s when Cornish laid the trap.
“Can I raise one thing for you?” she asked. “Because this is a legal question. You’re saying if you’re going after the worst of the worst, you know what? You probably would be able to get a judicial warrant because you would have gone to a criminal court and said this person committed a crime. If you have an administrative warrant – hold on a second. If you have an administrative warrant, you’re by definition admitting it’s administrative. It’s not the worst of the worst. So at a certain point, how does this argument fall on deaf ears of the public that is subsumed with not us, but their own social media videos of what’s happening on the ground?”
“And you know,” added Democratic strategist Maria Cardona, “that more than half of the people that are here without documentation overstayed their visas, and that is not a criminal offense. Is that correct?”
Cardona asked former federal prosecutor and ICE official Elliot Williams to weigh in, but Cornish interjected to finish her point.
“No, hold on one second,” Cornish said. “So that’s what I’m asking the point about worst of the worst. Does worst of the worst work if your administrative warrants weren’t getting you through the door?”
Bluey sidestepped the legal argument and instead focused on the politics of the administration’s policy.
“Again, I think politically the administration understood that that was the the best path to take in 2025 because they understood the polling you cited earlier would probably not support all of the efforts,” Bluey said. “I think you now find yourself in a situation where Donald Trump made a promise to voters in the 2024 campaign, and you’re trying to come to grips with how exactly –”
Williams then interrupted to make a legal analysis.
“Five seconds – we’re talking about this a lot,” Williams said. “You know, it’s to your, to push back on you a little bit, Maria. They can under the law remove the nannies and the dads and they’re empowered to do that. The problem, and this is what ties into what Rob is saying, that’s a huge political problem. Over time, if people start seeing these images, yeah, just because you can do something and the law allows it doesn’t mean you ought to.”
Cornish then took another whack at Bluey’s argument.
“So I’m just going to read one last thing,” she said. “The Washington Post editorial board where they make your point. Trump won the 2024 election on promises to pursue mass deportation. He’s within his rights to aggressively enforce the laws, they agree, but they say ‘the administration sullies that mandate every time it goes too far, especially when it reaches beyond its legal authority, and the public has already soured on the administration’s crackdown. How long will it take before the president notices?’”
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