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Taylor Swift shades Joe Alwyn and Matt Healy as she makes rare comment on ‘rough’ breakups in docuseries

December 19, 2025
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Taylor Swift shades Joe Alwyn and Matt Healy as she makes rare comment on ‘rough’ breakups in docuseries

Taylor Swift made rare comments about her “rough” breakups with longtime boyfriend Joe Alwyn and on-again, off-again fling Matt Healy on “End of an Era.”

“I went through two breakups in the first half of this tour and that’s a lot of breakups, actually,” Swift said on episode four of her Disney+ docuseries.

She added how the show gave her “purpose” and helped her “get out of bed” despite the “s–t that was going on.”

“Men will let you down. The Eras Tour never will,” Swift added.

Taylor Swift with a Disney+ logo in the top right corner.
Swift discusses her “rough” breakups with Joe Alwyn and Matt Healy on “End of an Era.”
Joe Alywyn in a March 2025 selfie.
“I went through two breakups in the first half of this tour and that’s a lot of breakups, actually,” Swift said, of Alwyn, seen here, and Healy. joe.alwyn/Instagram

The “Opalite” singer discussed recording her 11th album, “The Tortured Poets Department,” which had many references to both Alwyn and Healy.

She explained how the album was “everything bad I felt for two years” and a “rough time in my life.”

“I’m a big conglomerate no one sees as a human being, especially not the men that I date,” she said. “Nothing works, there is no one for me in the world.”

On episode three, Swift commended her crew and loved ones for helping her through the tough times.

“It’s so wonderful being able to carry a professional family with you as you go through phases of life, as you go through ups and downs and heartbreaks,” Swift gushed.

Swift, 35, and Alwyn, 34, broke up in 2023 after six years together.

Alwyn was spotted supporting Swift at a March Eras Tour show before their split.

Swift’s “The Tortured Poets Department” had various songs about her split with the actor, including “So Long, London,” “Loml” and “I Can Do It With a Broken Heart.”

Taylor Swift in a black and gold sequined outfit with a snake motif on the bodice, mouth open in excitement.
“I’m a big conglomerate no one sees as a human being, especially not the men that I date,” she said. “Nothing works, there is no one for me in the world.”
Taylor Swift covering her face while her mother Andrea sits next to her.
Swift commended her crew and loved ones for helping her through the breakups. Disney Plus

Swift has had an on-again, off-again romance with Healy, 36, through the years, as they dated before her romance with Alwyn.

The “Elizabeth Taylor” singer and The 1975 frontman reconnected soon after her split from Alwyn, as they were spotted on a date at New York City’s Casa Cipriani in May 2023.

“The Tortured Poets Department,” “Guilty as Sin,” “Down Bad,” “The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived” and other songs are references to Healy.

The latter tune appears to give insight into their June 2023 split, as she sings, “You tried to buy some pills / From a friend of friends of mine” and “they just ghosted you, now you know what it feels like.”

Taylor Swift embraces Travis Kelce from behind, who is smiling broadly, with the Disney+ logo visible.
Swift moved on with now-fiancé Travis Kelce, who appears in the docuseries.
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce embracing in a garden.
The couple got engaged in August after two years of dating. Instagram/ Taylor Swift

Of course, Swift moved on with now-fiance, Travis Kelce, who she began dating in the summer of 2023 after he called her out on his “New Heights” podcast.

The Kansas City Chiefs star has been seen singing along at Swift’s many shows, as he even made a surprise appearance on stage at one of her London concerts.

The docuseries also gives insight into her romance with Kelce, with episode one featuring an emotional phone call between the couple.

The two announced via Instagram in August that they were engaged after two years of dating, as Page Six reported they plan to marry in Rhode Island over the summer.

The final two episodes of the Disney+ docuseries drop on Dec. 23.

The post Taylor Swift shades Joe Alwyn and Matt Healy as she makes rare comment on ‘rough’ breakups in docuseries appeared first on Page Six.

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