President Donald Trump’s chief of staff Susie Wiles did more than embarrass the White House with her broad-ranging Vanity Fair interview, MS NOW’s Nicolle Wallace argued to the reporter who broke the story, Chris Whipple, on Thursday. In fact, she exposed herself to subpoenas from the people Trump ordered indicted by the Justice Department, as they pursue vindictive prosecution complaints.
“What did she — what was the spirit of the conversation when she describes Donald Trump’s personality as a, quote, ‘alcoholic’s personality’?” asked Wallace.
“What’s amazing about the whole thing, Nicolle, is that she was it was just a matter of fact,” said Whipple. “And she was matter of fact when she described the the fact that there was still a revenge and retribution campaign going full tilt. She was matter of fact when she talked about how [New York Attorney General] Letitia James was part of that retribution tour, which is practically a get-out-of-jail-free card for her attorneys. That was what was so remarkable. And I think I think part of it is that it’s not that there’s a bubble mentality in the Trump White House, a bunker mentality. It’s really kind of a bubble. And I think at a certain point when you’re surrounded by like–minded acolytes that you, you forget that what you’re saying is sometimes crazy.”
“I mean, did she understand that by acknowledging the retribution and revenge and acknowledging that the Justice Department was being used in that way, that she could be subpoenaed as a witness in a vindictive prosecution?” asked Wallace.
“I have no idea,” said Whipple — but, he added, “She certainly wasn’t reluctant to talk about it.”
“And the really fascinating thing was the sort of arc, the sort of journey that we went through over the over the 11 months or so,” Whipple said. “And on day 56, she told me that Donald Trump and I have a loose agreement, as she put it, that the revenge and retribution tour will end on the 90th day after 90 days. Months later, I said, remember when you told me that the revenge and retribution tour would be over? She said, oh, well, it’s not a retribution tour, really … but I followed up and said, well, so what about all this talk about mortgage fraud and Letitia James? And she said, oh, well, that one’s a, that’s a retribution. Words to that effect.”
“Stunningly candid. Stunningly dangerous,” he added. “Something that no senior White House official that I can think of in history would say out loud. And yet there we were.”
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