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I asked 4 people how to break into AI, from a Microsoft PM to a Meta senior director. They shared the same, simple piece of advice.

December 28, 2025
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I asked 4 people how to break into AI, from a Microsoft PM to a Meta senior director. They shared the same, simple piece of advice.
From left to right: Mostofa Shakib, Patrick Leung, Sophia Sun
In 2025, I interviewed four tech industry professionals about how to break into AI. Courtesy of Mostofa Shakib; Patrick Leung; Sophia Sun
  • AI jobs are hot right now, and some in the tech industry are pivoting their careers to get them.
  • In 2025, the Business Insider reporter Charissa Cheong asked 4 tech workers how they broke into AI.
  • They all shared the same, simple piece of advice: Get your hands dirty.

As the AI revolution continues to disrupt white collar jobs, many of us are looking for ways to get ahead.

As part of my first-person coverage for Business Insider in 2025, I asked people with aspirational jobs their formulas for success — including how tech workers in various stages of their careers landed cutting-edge AI jobs.

These conversations covered a variety of topics, from whether you need a Ph.D. to break into the field to how to earn big as an AI contractor.

But one remarkably simple piece of advice kept coming up: gain real-world experience with AI technology to help get your foot in the door.

They didn’t view AI as something that can be mastered from a textbook or in a lecture hall. Instead, play around with AI, like an infant tinkering with a new toy, or “get your hands dirty,” to borrow a phrase from a couple of the techies I interviewed.

But what does that look like in practice? Here’s how they applied this principle in their own careers.

An ex-Googler’s top tip for breaking into AI was building real-world experience at work or in your spare time

Patrick Leung standing in front of a Google sign
Leung shared his top tip for breaking into AI with Business Insider. Courtesy of Patrick Leung

When Patrick Leung, who joined Google in 2007, first saw a demo for a calling assistant that used AI, which would later be called Google Duplex, he was blown away by how realistic the voice sounded.

Leung joined the Duplex team in 2017. Although he’d been exposed to machine learning and AI concepts during previous company projects, he’d never worked on building models and had to retool himself on the job.

Leveraging the expertise around him, including by having lengthy conversations with colleagues who explained how the system worked, helped him become proficient in AI.

Leung witnessed Google Duplex’s public launch in 2018, before leaving Google in 2019 to join a financial sciences company. He’s continued to work with AI in the later stages of his career.

At the time of his interview with Business Insider, Leung said the barrier to getting into AI was lower than ever, and encouraged people to apply LLMs to real business problems. For instance, a friend with no coding experience used AI to personalize outreach messages for recruitment purposes at her job and improved her response rate.

If there aren’t opportunities to do something like this in your current job, use AI in your spare time and put it on your résumé, Leung said, adding that people who can demonstrate they can wield LLMs effectively are going to find jobs.

Read Leung’s full story here.

A Microsoft PM pitched a project that helped her gain hands-on AI experience

Sophia Sun holding a bouquet of flowers
Sun became a senior AI product manager at Microsoft in July 2024. Courtesy of Sophia Sun

Sophia Sun essentially put Leung’s advice into action when she pitched a project that would use AI to help customers at Kajabi, the creator commerce platform she worked for as a senior product manager.

The tool Sun envisioned would help content creators generate marketing content, such as blog posts and short-form videos, for TikTok and Instagram.

She started working on the project in April 2023, alongside engineering and marketing teammates. Seeing it through to its March 2024 launch was a learning curve for Sun, who had never built an AI product before.

That July, Sun started a new job at Microsoft as a senior AI product manager, and told Business Insider she thought her end-to-end experience with building an AI product helped her land the role.

Sun’s playbook for breaking into AI was to find a real user problem, design a lightweight AI solution, and turn it into proof of work. Having good grades is one thing, she said, but building a product that demonstrates your abilities is another, she said.

Read Sun’s story here.

A former Snap Inc. engineer got real-world AI experience outside a full-time role

Mostofa Shakib wearing a yellow Snapchat hoodie
Shakib now works as a contractor for an AI-driven recruitment company. Courtesy of Mostofa Shakib

When OpenAI released ChatGPT in 2022, Mostofa Adib Shakib knew the world was going to change.

He started his career in traditional software engineering at Snap Inc. and then ZipRecruiter, but became convinced he needed to build AI skills.

Shakib spent time learning about AI from books, videos, and research papers, and he built software projects to gain proficiency with agentic AI, such as a tool to help Bangladeshi professionals optimize their résumés.

In February 2025, he started an AI contractor role with Mercor, which, around the time of his interview with Business Insider, earned him a handsome sum of $6,400 a week.

Shakib decided not to go back to a full-time traditional software engineering job. He said he thought focusing on building AI skills before the market gets crowded was the right bet for him.

While being a full-time employee at a company offers stability and benefits, it would restrict his time, meaning he could only focus on gaining agentic AI skills on weekends, he said. As a full-time AI contractor, he can spread out his hours as he pleases, he added.

Shakib advised people interested in staying relevant in the tech industry to embrace change, rather than fear it, and to focus on upskilling.

Read Shakib’s full story here.

A former director of GenAI at Meta recommended starting your own projects and seeing them through

Devi Parikh smiling
Parikh quit her job as a senior director of GenAI at Meta in 2024. Courtesy of Yutori

Although Devi Parikh completed a Ph.D. in computer vision in 2009, before going on to become a senior director of GenAI at Meta years later, she said not to assume you need a Ph.D. to break into AI.

As the cofounder and co-CEO of the AI company Yutori, she doesn’t consider Ph.D.s much when hiring, but looks for people with relevant practical experience, such as training models, she said.

Other potential avenues into interesting AI work include spending time at startups or big labs, or trying side projects that make use of open source code and online communities.

Starting and executing projects has been instrumental to her career success, Parikh said. For instance, during the COVID-19 pandemic, she started working on a YouTube series called “Humans of AI,” where she interviewed AI researchers about their daily habits. This gave her more professional visibility than her research alone could.

Read Parikh’s full story here.

Do you have a story to share about breaking into AI? Contact this reporter at [email protected]

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